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welcome to our viewers on pbs and around the globe. president obama is said to address the nation on his plans for drawing down along this war in america's history. the one in afghanistan. it used to be called the forgotten war. this is one most americans would rather forget. the president is expected to announce the withdrawal of 30,000 troops. the decision is sparking a fierce debate. >> the screaming eagle. the 101st airborne targeting the taliban are the face of the surge. 30,000 new troops he sent to afghanistan and plans to pull out. the cost has been high. 1600 american lives, $2 billion
a week. the determination of the american military presents a dilemma for the president. the base in the kentucky - tennessee border, here, troops trained for a hard slog ahead. this year has not yet been won. >> they are happy we're there and we're trying to do the right thing and help them out. >> if you're asked to help them, you will? >> i wish i was going back. >> he shares their sense of duty. to this soldier, its mission is not accomplished. >> not until the country is stable enough so it can stand on its own feet without help from the u.s.. >> do you think it is? >> not right now. >> the owner had no sense of the
war winding down. >> we thought 10 years ago it would be happening, especially the yen regeneration. but it is real. i think the war is here to stay. >> the republican politician who represents this area. >> this is a long war. what we have to realize is we cannot lose the ground we have gained. the war on terrorism continues. >> this is a community used to conflict. this one has gone on longer than any other war americans fought. there would like to be known as the most patriotic in america. there's a sense of conflict. people would like their boys and girls home but there is a feeling that they should stay and finish the job and do their duty. even though that is -- in the rest of america, opinion polls suggest that people are fed up.
in national, country music draws visitors from the state. the other view that obama has to wait. a nation weary of war. >> we're out of harm's way. that is what i say. >> it is unbelievably budget training, especially with higher unemployment and the other issues we have going on in america, it is hard to vote for putting more money into those areas. while the military has warned against the dash to the exit , they're sitting a brisk pace. >> the president is expected to lay out the strategy. the president will give the speech tonight. the american public according to opinion polls is getting tired of this war. is he going to withdraw the
troops fast enough to satisfy the public but safeguard the security achievements? >> that is the crest -- question. how do you maintain the balance and as a guy who has spent his life on the ground in conditions like that, in countries like that in situations like that in combat, you do not ever have enough troops. i would say from that commanders perspective, they prefer to have a more measured departure. workfare is politics by other means so this is a political decision. into that suit that we swim, the president has to throw in the fact the public does not want us to be there. the military is getting more wary. it has never been a more ready military than we have right now but he has to look at the economic issues and the domestic issues to make a decision. it is political. >> do you think we are losing the war? >> we're not. we have to do is raise our hand and say we declare victory.
>> according to whose definition? >> that is the point. we could debate this for a long time. if you declare your being successful and there is extremely strong evidence there is a great amount of success that is occurring on the ground, what we need to be able to do is ensure that when we depart from afghanistan which is an inevitability that the afghan nation wants us to stick around as long as we can, they will want us to be a partner as they step forward and the u.s. and all the other contributing nations, great britain is a magnificent friend, will continue to have an unblinking eye on the situation so we do not lose sight of what could happen again. in terms of the nation-building exercise, to what extent has the psychological steam gone out since the killing of osama bin laden? >> the killing was at
magnificent, episodic event that occurred and inevitably, people will look at that and say what next? what have you done for me lately? what i would say is that nation- building truly is not mission 1. there is a hierarchy of needs and at the base of that is stability and a form of governance upon which to build. with the military needs to be able to continue to do is ensure the foundation exists. we need to pay attention to that task and we can depart and make sure we can assist with a lot of diplomatic efforts and others to ensure that these tasks can be taken care of. >> we will leave it at that. thank you. the international effort grinds on in an attempt to defeat the forces of colonel gaddafi. there is a controversy over
possible civilian casualties. the regime claims 19 people and three children -- including three children died. our middle east editor has this report. tripoli. drive west of nato killed 15 people including three children and to women. this man is one of colonel gaddafi's closest advisers and he owned the house that was destroyed. two of his grandchildren and the mother are among the dead. >> you are a killer. you are -- pulverized the home. nato says it was a command
center and the family says it was their home. next to him was his son, khalid. >> this is our kids. what do you want here? >> the deaths raise the moral question at the heart of the note -- the mission. its mandate is to protect civilians. is it ever justifiable to kill them? the preacher has told the mourners that nato's objections -- objectives are clear. most significant is this is disquieting for people who never believed in military action in the first place. they're giving second thoughts about the bombing. nato said it saved thousands of
lives and work hard to avoid civilian casualties and the regime does not. every time a mission that is supposed to protect civilians killed them, doubts are bound to grow. >> from time to time, the streets of belfast still display an alarming. that -- ability to behave badly. the most intense violence in years has flared up. bullets, petrol bombs are used in the riots. a photographer was a shot in the leg. our ireland correspondent has more on who is being blamed for the violence and why it has reached the boiling point. the police are out in force trying to prevent a third consecutive night of rioting. what happened here last night had not been seen in east belfast for years. first, it was fireworks. then came the gunfire. one of the bullets hit a
photographer who was covering the right. other members of the media watched it happen. >> i saw epistle come over the wall with a hand and i did not know if it was a real gun. i yelled and everyone started running. there was someone peering over the wall and he shot five or six rounds. >> the gun was fired by a dissident republican but most of the violence was caused by loyalists. for two consecutive nights, the trouble has centered on the road where a mainly protestant district meets the mainly catholic one. there is a long history of division. hard-liners from both sides of the divide have been involved in the latest violence but it was started by the loyalist paramilitary group uvs. it was involved in more than 500 murders. they say it decommission its
weapons and it was committed to peace. there is unrest within the uvf. some question whether the peace process is worth supporting. there is a section of the unit protestantd community. >> this is not a peace process. it was like the should fane republican ira. >> the first minister has offer to become directly involved. >> we want to deal with those grievances and concerns as to how things can be done better, let's do that and i am willing to engage with people that find this helpful. >> efforts were being made behind the scenes to stop the violence. the police in northern ireland are well trained in dealing
with major security operations but there have not been many in recent years as big as this. so far tonight, the area has been relatively calm. there is no guarantee it will stay that way. all week we have been watching the financial fallout from greece but today it was the u.s. economy that got another focus. the problems could persist well into next year. it is a sentiment reflected in the latest bloomberg poll. here to discuss this is al hunt. every time we talked, we talk about some gloomy numbers. >> what can we talk about optimism and bright sunshine? we cannot tonight. >> the numbers that stand out for me is 25% say the economy is
heading in the right way? >> 23%. >> 55% are convinced their children will be worse off than they are. does that mean the american dream is fizzling? >> that is the definition and that is the fear. the pervasive pessimism you for sea. -- that you see. a pluralities say they were worse than they were. some of it is reality. there are a lot of people unemployed and underemployed. business week had a piece about people who cannot change jobs because they are nervous and skittish about the economy. there is grounds for pennant -- pessimism that this is greater than the reality. >> what ben bernanke said is we will grow by 2 percent -- 2.7. that is not bad. what these numbers and we're not officially in recession.
where these numbers secreting gloom? >> at this stage, our expectation was that we would be doing better. not the 5% that tim pawlenty talked about but 3.544%. adding jobs at 2.7%, you will not add jobs. that will feed into the insecurities. we should have appreciated more what ken rogoff wrote. if you think you have a be shipped -- v-shared recovery, it will not be. >> businesses are sitting on piles of cash that it will not invest because of a foreclosure crisis, why? >> the first effects some investors in some markets. my guess is a little bit less than the second or third. companies are sitting on cash. one of the greatest tough issues
that are being debated is whether you ought to give them a tax holiday to bring back that and come. the housing crisis affects confidence. so many houses are under water and there is no prospect of feeling better. >> how troubling are these numbers for barack obama as we head into the election? >> if you -- republicans could coalesce around a formidable candidate, barack obama would be in deep trouble. these numbers are bad for an incumbent. we asked if things do not get better, will it make it difficult to vote for barack obama and 60% said yes and 60% said it will be difficult to vote for republicans. >> a chinese dissident has been released on bail. chinese state media said he was released after admitting tax
evasion and because of ill health. >> released by police in the middle of the night. he arrived home after almost three months in a secret chinese detention center. you cannot talk? you're not allowed to. >> i am on probation. >> he cannot talk about what happened there. he looked thinner and has aged since he has been seized. he gave his thanks in the west to campaign for his release and said he is happy to be home. he is china's most famous living artist. he filled the tate modern with his artwork last month. chinese police say he has confessed to tax evasion and on release he has promised to repay the money. in the months before his arrest, he was a local leading critic.
his family believes that is why he is targeted. >> they will follow your e- mail and mountaire you and they can find you and brainwash you or a scare you or intimidate you or kiss you. >> dozens of other government critics have been detained in recent weeks. some have been sent to labor camps and others disappeared. china moving to stop the middle eastern style revolution. he was held for 80 days at a secret location with no access to a lawyer. why is he being released now? chinese police say it is because of his good attitude. it may have to do with the fact that the chinese premier is visiting the uk this weekend. hthat been the most critical of the rest. >> you're watching bbc world
news america. grounded for good. the shuttle is retiring. time to get a rare glimpse inside. when it comes to cities on the rise, it is hard to beat china. they have more than one hatter 60 urban centers with over 1 million residents. ou>> it is one of china's fastest-growing cities. a dynamo of development mixing the old with the new. the traditional with the ultramodern. it began as a port. for centuries, fishermen's routines have barely changed. mending nets before heading out to sea. the atmosphere is rapidly changing.
off in the distance, they have reached the shore. >> i feel shocked by the changes. we used to have old houses and muddy roads. now we have highways and skyscrapers. >> as a major industrial center, it is a magnet for migrants. officials want to make sure that it remains livable. that means developing the city at breakneck speed. they are building one of the biggest railway stations in the world. part of a grand plan to develop a city with millions of new arrivals. they want to make sure the city can cope. the rush to the cities are producing a strain.
the city may have a solution. it is building an eco city designed to use less water and electricity. >> in paris, the trial is underway for john galliano. he is charged with hurling anti- semitic slurs in a cafe which has cost him his job. he said he had no recollection of the incident due to drugs and alcohol. this report contains flash photography. >> the usually flamboyant john galliano sneaks into court your side entrance. there is no avoiding the disgrace of these charges or the boulder way in which he abused fellow customers in the paris bar. this footage was the main exhibit in court showing him
abusing people and glorifying the holocaust. >> people like you would be dead. >> his barrister said he had developed a triple addiction to alcohol, antidepressants, and sleeping pills. >> people in that state do not understand a word they are saying. they understand the hallucinations they are experiencing. john galliano was at the pinnacle of world fashion but behind his bold eccentricity was a man struggling to -- with the pressure of his work. the french fashion house christian dior sacked him after his arrest in the middle of paris fashion week, fighting a zero tolerance policy. they recognize this alarming pattern of behavior, others say
and have been worried for some time. john galliano said he did not recognize or remember the abuse that was filmed. he has a good job -- has apologized and said he is in rehab for an addiction that has ruined his career. >> now to the final countdown for the shuttle. atlantis is set to blast off one last time. after three decades, dozens of lack of success, the shuttle program is being put out to pasture. our science correspondent got a chance to see discovery up close and personal. >> atlantis, the last shuttle on its last of permission. the crew is boring to go. when the mission is over, atlantis will be stripped of its equipment and put in a museum. that is what they're doing here to the shuttle discovery.
that has allowed nasa for the first time to allow journalists on board. this is the flight pattern. this is where the commander will said. next to him, the pilots and here are the instruments and if you take a look behind this is the cargo bay. part of the international state -- space station here. one of the engineers shows me the deck below is where -- which is where the crew each and sleeps. >> there is a hydrator. >> also on the mid-deck is a corridor. the shuttles are being retired because they are too old, too expensive, and too dangerous to
fly. leading american reliant on the russians to get its astronauts into space. >> you will see two or three years of argument and discussion in science and political circles to figure out what direction the space program should go next. it is not clear know. we're between things. >> the white house says there will be a spacecraft to replace the shuttle but what it will be and what it will be ready is far from certain. with the emergence of india and china, the end of the shuttle program may not be the end of america's pre-eminence in space. the end of the shuttle program and the end of this program. thank you for watching. we will see you again tomorrow.